To Paint or Swirl?

[Rabid Badger]

Dear Paste and Cutters.

I recently purchased a Simpsons shaving brush and within the case was their instructions for creating a lather was along the lines of: "dip the tips of the brush into the cream and use a painting stroke to create a lather on the face"

Now, I've also read on other forums etc. that swirling a brush can cause the knot to become loose. This would seem to make sense because, I'm guessing that taking memory muscle into account you probably swirl the same way each time. However, before buying a few new brushes I have used one brush almost exclusively for about 20 years (not shaving everyday and rarely on the weekends), of which I used to swirl. Now to this date, I've hardly lost any of the hairs on this brush, nor is the knot showing any signs of coming loose?

Do I happen to have a particularly robust brush, or is it all just made up marketing. What are you experiences?

 

[58RW]

Stop reading all the shit and just do what works for you I swirl & paint in anyone shave session and both works. and never ever had a brush crash or breakdown

 

[pvsampson]

Agree with @58FB ,just use the brush.Simpson brushes are made to strict quality control and I highly doubt they will come loose.Do what you have been doing and you will have no issues.

 

[tullfan]

Agree with the above,however Simpson's recommend not to swirl
I swirl

 

[SpeedyPC]

Stop reading all the shit and just do what works for you I swirl & paint in anyone shave session and both works. and never ever had a brush crash or breakdown

What he said above

 

[huntereyes_]

Agree with the above,however Simpson's recommend not to swirl
I swirl

I too love a good swirl with my Simpson brushes.

 

[RustyBlade]

Ok, swirl is ok. What about a good mashing or this a big no no with badgers?

 

[58RW]

Mashing what's this mashing try boiling some spuds then add milk and some butter that's mashing NOT shave brushing though

 

[Nightguard]

@58FB Is spot on. The issue Simpsons are warning against is mashing and swirling in tandem. Unlikely to cause a brush to start shedding but can will very quickly cause one to donut and snap bristles.

 

[58RW]

@58FB Is spot on. The issue Simpsons are warning against is mashing and swirling in tandem. Unlikely to cause a brush to start shedding but can will very quickly cause one to donut and snap bristles.

Exactly spot on

 

[RustyBlade]

Ok, I'll reword it for the spud lovers
While swirling and placing additional pressure to the point it feels like the brush can not be pushed any closer to your face, give it a term and ask my question above.

@Nightguard thank you, that was what I wanted to know. Doable but damaging.

 

[58RW]

Ok, I'll reword it for the spud lovers
While swirling and placing additional pressure to the point it feels like the brush can not be pushed any closer to your face, give it a term and ask my question above.

@Nightguard thank you, that was what I wanted to know. Doable but damaging.

So you want a term for mashing a shave brush into your face get drunk and run into a door smack ....!!

 

[Ferret619]

Tl;dr +1 potatoes for creamy lather

 

[todras]

The hairs of a high quality badger brush should endure no more than 1/4 distention, mashing the brush into the face does nothing to assist lather production (the tips of a brush make lather) and will simply damage the brush.

There is one youtube shaver with the nick name 'mash mash' because he reams the brush onto his face while lathering, he is known for having a number of expensive brushes that shed as a consequence of his misuse.

The advice from Simpsons is good advice (and is also the advice from a number of other quality brush makers), an excellent lather is obtained by using brush strokes.

 

[Rami]

I think you shouldn’t swirl with horse hair. As they can knot. Not sure as I don’t have one. Otherwise as per all the excellent advise above.

 

[RustyBlade]

The hairs of a high quality badger brush should endure no more than 1/4 distention, mashing the brush into the face does nothing to assist lather production (the tips of a brush make lather) and will simply damage the brush.

There is one youtube shaver with the nick name 'mash mash' because he reams the brush onto his face while lathering, he is known for having a number of expensive brushes that shed as a consequence of his misuse.

The advice from Simpsons is good advice (and is also the advice from a number of other quality brush makers), an excellent lather is obtained by using brush strokes.

Thanks for the great advice & info @todras as have yet to use a badger and love to work my brushes like Rudd
Will have to adjust my technique as the boar, horse and synthetics don't care so much.

 

[Substance]

Swirl to bowl lather
Swirl to face lather
Then paint to even lather for shaving
Well that's my method anyway lol
To each there own really as long as it works for you

 

[Drubbing]

Simpson's instructions are purely a legal get-out clause for spurious warranty claims from the 1000s of fuckwits on B&B. Swirl that fucker as much as you like. It's built to be a shaving brush.

 

[pvsampson]

....... 1000s of fuckwits on B&B......

LOL.I have noticed that.

 

[todras]

Simpson's instructions are purely a legal get-out clause for spurious warranty claims from the 1000s of fuckwits on B&B. Swirl that fucker as much as you like. It's built to be a shaving brush.

Their recommendations are shared by a fair few other brush maker and reflect common sense. I also see them as a reasonable attempt reduce the cost to their business due to inexperience, 1000's of fuckwit's from B&B notwithstanding.

Many idiots mash and ream their badger brushes almost flat onto their faces (almost covering their cheeks) in a manner not dissimilar to the way they would a synth or 14mm/16mm boar.